Episodes

What happens when a pizza business gets too big for the systems that got it there? Eidref sits down with Marc from Square Pie Guys to talk about what happens when a pizza business really starts to scale. From selling more than 800,000 pizzas on DoorDash to opening multiple locations, Marc shares the expensive lessons, growing pains, maintenance issues, and the challenge of relying on third-party delivery apps while building a stronger direct relationship with customers. Highlights: 0:00 – From P...

What Does It Really Take to Land High-Paying Pizza Catering Clients? In this episode, Eidref breaks down one of his toughest catering events, what he learned from serving 176 people, and why he’s decided to step away from catering to focus on building a media company. Highlights: 0:52 – The Catering Event That Didn’t Go as Planned 1:30 – Why a “Bad” Catering Gig Can Still Be a Win 1:38 – What Serving 176 People Taught Him 2:10 – Why the Next 100-Person Event Feels Easier 2:17 – Bringing in Extr...

What happens when a 41-year-old pizza shop suddenly goes viral and its tiny kitchen can barely keep up? In this episode, Eidref sits down with Gerry Buontempo of Frank’s Pizza & Pasta in Baltimore to talk about the family business, upgrading their pizza, handling explosive growth, and keeping the old-school feel that made the shop special. Highlights: 00:52 – Taking Over a Family Pizzeria During COVID 01:51 – The Bell Curve of a Multi-Generational Business 03:02 – Losing Their Pizza Guy & S...

What makes a tavern-style pizza stand out—and what does it take to build a pizzeria that can grow beyond the owner? In this episode, Eidref visits Last Round Tavern in San Jose and sits down with owner Caleb Ramirez to talk about the unique pizza style he's bringing to the Bay Area.Their tavern-style pizza is thin, crispy, cut into squares, and loaded with ingredients all the way to the edge—but instead of the traditional cornmeal, Caleb uses a sourdough starter. The result is a pizza that's fa...

How do you build a successful pizzeria, empower your team, and still have a life outside the restaurant?In this episode, Eidref heads to White Rabbit Gastropub in Frederick, Maryland, home of the World Champion Detroit-style pizza and the team behind Rad Pies.The conversation goes way beyond pizza. From developing the famous Crust We Trust to building systems that allow the owner to step away from the day-to-day, this episode digs into restaurant growth, leadership, dough development, customer e...

In this episode of What's Good Dough, we head to Rad Pies in Maryland to see if their Detroit-style pizza lives up to the hype. Known for that signature crispy cheese crust and airy dough, we’re putting their pies to the ultimate test.Highlights:00:07 — White Rabbit / Rad Pies intro & the accidental pepperoni frico crust00:40 — The 100% hydration dough01:04 — 25-year-old starter & 19-hour ambient fermentation02:03 — Why pro pizza makers avoid 100% hydration02:20 — Building the Detroit: killing t...

What makes this the "Ferrari" of pizza ovens? In this episode, we go inside the Marra Forni factory to see how the "Ferrari" of brick ovens is built. Founder Francesco Marra share powerful story of moving to America with nothing, facing a major restaurant failure, and eventually building a global business that ships to 37 countries. We also dive into the tech that can double or triple a restaurant's revenue. Highlights: 00:52 – Intro: The Ferrari of Pizza Ovens 01:32 – Inside the Factory: Bu...

What happens when a pizza shop expects to do $6,000 a day... but ends up doing $16,000? In this episode, Eidref visits Odie's Pizza in San Diego and sits down with founder Odie O’Connor to discuss one of the fastest-growing pizza concepts in Southern California. From building a vegan Detroit-style pizza brand in Portland to launching a surf-inspired sourdough pizza shop that generated over $1 million in its first few months, Odie shares the systems, mindset, and lessons behind scaling a high-v...

What are the best upgrades you can make to run smoother, faster, and more profitable pizza catering events? In this episode, Eidref breaks down the seven biggest upgrades he's making to his pizza catering setup for 2026. After five years of catering as a side hustle, a sudden influx of new bookings pushed him to rethink every part of his operation. From cooler systems and organization hacks to rotating pizza stones and workflow improvements, this episode is all about working smarter, deliverin...

What does it really take to build a million-dollar pizza shop with no investors, no dining room, and only 900 square feet? In this episode, Eidref sits down with Fred Santos of Square Pizza Co., a pizzeria quietly doing massive numbers out of a tiny shop in Pacific Beach. Fred and his partner Bruno bootstrapped everything themselves, worked brutal hours for years, and built a cult following around square pizzas most people had never even heard of. This conversation dives into sacrifice, system...

How can a three-time world pizza champion still struggle to fill his own shop? In this episode, Eidref sits down with Ryan Ososky, a three-time world pizza champion and Pizza Maker of the Year, to unpack one of the most interesting contradictions in pizza. Ryan has the trophies, the technique, and one of the most dialed-in Detroit-style pies in West Hollywood—but the crowds haven’t always matched the accolades. From building award-winning pizza to navigating the brutal economics of running a r...

How far would you go to become a world pizza champion? In this episode, Eidref sits down with Wilhelm Rodriguez, a world pizza champion who spent years chasing one of the toughest titles in the industry. From competing in pizza acrobatics to grinding through multiple losses in Las Vegas, Wilhelm shares what it really takes to win on the biggest stage. This is a story about obsession, resilience, and why even after reaching the top, the ultimate goal still isn’t finished. Highlights: 0:53 – T...

How does a Bay Area pizzeria quietly become a $2 million business? In this episode, Idris sits down with Leah, owner of Pizza Leah, to break down how a small-town pizzeria quietly hit $2 million in annual sales. From opening 20 locations to walking away for her health, Leah shares how she rebuilt her life—and built a highly efficient pizza operation rooted in systems, consistency, and intentional decisions. Highlights: 0:52 – From Dine-In Vision to Takeout Reality 1:22 – Meet Leah: From 20 ...

What does it really take to serve 58 pizzas in just 45 minutes… at a wedding where everything has to be perfect? In this episode, we go behind the scenes with Linda and Abby of Fired Up Fresh, a mother-daughter duo specializing in high-pressure mobile pizza catering. From months of preparation to last-minute improvisation, they show how chaotic wedding events are transformed into a seamless, high-performance operation. We break down their entire process—from prepping dough days in advance, man...

What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent entirely? In this episode of the What's Good Dough Podcast, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle, the team behind Gabacool Pizza, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional restaurant. From prepping in a commissary kitchen to selling out at brewery pop-ups, they’ve built a business that prioritizes flexibility, creativity, and commun...

What if the smartest way to start a pizza business isn’t opening a restaurant… but avoiding rent altogether? In this episode, we spend the day with Jeremy and Michelle of Gabacool, an award-winning pizza pop-up that built a powerful brand without the massive overhead of a traditional pizzeria. From prepping in a $235/month commissary kitchen to selling out every weekend at brewery pop-ups, they’ve created a system that prioritizes flexibility, strong branding, and high-quality ingredients. We ...

What happens when an engineer quits his job, goes all-in on pizza, and builds a slice shop obsessed with consistency? In this episode of What’s Good Dough, Eidref is with Charlie Anderson, founder of Good Pizza Cleveland, to talk about the real work behind opening a modern slice shop. From menu minimalism and workflow design to dough fermentation, content creation, and long-term vision, this is a deep dive into what it actually takes to make great pizza— consistently. Highlights:2:05 – Buildin...

Most pizzerias have a huge menu, but this man, Charlie Anderson, only sells six pizzas. And this strategy is helping him in his quest to be the best pizzeria in the world. Highlights:0:00 – Why a Tight Menu Keeps Slices Fresh0:40 – Pros & Cons of Offering Fewer Pizzas1:20 – Meet Charlie Anderson of Good Pizza Cleveland2:00 – From First Pizza to Opening a Pizzeria2:45 – Designing a Modern Slice Shop Experience3:30 – Building a New York–Style Slice Shop in Cleveland4:10 – Why Good Pizza Only Offer...

What happens when you open a slice shop during a pandemic, with no dining room and no walk-in traffic? In this episode, we sit down with Lars Smith, Chef and Co-Owner of State of Mind Slice House and the mind behind State of Mind Slice House in Palo Alto. Lars shares how lessons from past failures, smart pricing, and intentional design helped him build a high-performing slice shop during and after the pandemic. Highlights: 0:52 – Opening during the pandemic 1:39 – Why smaller restaurants are...

What if everyone told you your pizzeria would fail because of its location — and you proved them wrong by selling 275 pizzas in just four hours? In this episode of What’s Good Dough, we sit down inside Fired Pizza in Stockton, CA — a pizzeria that broke nearly every “rule” people swear by in the restaurant industry. From being told their location would never work, to transitioning from a mobile pizza trailer to a full brick-and-mortar restaurant, this conversation goes deep on resilience, smar...

What if the reason this pizza won wasn’t a secret ingredient… but a decision most people wouldn’t make? Slice on Broadway just took home Best Cheese Slice at the 2025 Las Vegas Pizza Expo and was named Best Pizzeria in the State—and today, we’re sitting down with owner-operator Rico Lunardi to find out why. From dough hydration and cheese blends to Pittsburgh pizza culture and consistency under pressure, this episode goes deep into what it actually takes to make great pizza… and keep it great. ...

What really happens when you cater a wedding for the first time—especially when it’s your cousin’s big day? In this episode, I break down the behind-the-scenes reality of catering my first-ever wedding. From long-distance travel and unexpected costs to dough management disasters and learning the power of preparation, these lessons can help any pizza operator—whether you're established or just getting started. Let’s dive into the four biggest takeaways that shaped the entire experience. Highlig...

Can a brand-new pizzeria really survive on one of San Francisco’s toughest streets? In this episode, we hang out with David Jacobson, the pizza maker behind Cheezy’s Artisan Pizza and a Real California Milk Cheese Champion. David’s worked in some of the Bay Area’s most respected kitchens, built pizza programs from scratch, and now he’s taking a big swing by opening his own shop right on Market Street — a place known for being unpredictable, challenging, and honestly, a little intimidating. We ...

How do two pizza lovers turn a shared obsession into a thriving, award-winning pizzeria—during a pandemic? We’re inside the dough room at Cowabunga to hear how Justin and Andy went from pizza snobs and Instagram mutuals to building one of Canada’s most talked-about slice shops. We break down their hybrid sourdough program, how they scaled without sacrificing quality, why pizza screens aren’t the enemy, and the wild story of winning World’s Best Cheese Slice in Vegas… after losing their dough in...